Talking Out of Your Arse
July 7th, 2008 by slakbarstedNow you think you’re feeling better
but you keep on getting wetter:
Diarrhoea, diarrhoea.
When you’re on the seat for hours
and it doesn’t smell like flowers:
Diarrhoea, diarrhoea.
When the feeling’s not that nice
and you have to flush it twice:
Diarrhoea, diarrhoea.
When you’re sitting on the fence
and you’re feeling hot and tense:
Diarrhoea, diarrhoea.
When you really want to shout
and it keeps on gushing out:
Diarrhoea, diarrhoea.
(Source: http://diarrheasong.blogspot.com/ )
Now my dear readers if you thought I was talking about the big bad brown wolf you have a very sick imagination and for the life of me I cannot fathom why you would think that way. No I’m actually talking about a different kind of diarrhoea, the verbal kind.
Picture this, it was a rather nice Wednesday evening at Trivia when I had already downed my schooner of Guinness. Yes it was cold outside because of some nasty wind corridors which plague the city and it made me thankful the pub was warm inside.
It wasn’t until I was trying to pay attention to a conversation between Bender & O’Hara after all both of them had serious expressions on their faces and naturally I assumed it must be an enlightening conversation. Bender was yelling being something with O’Hara occasionally chiming in, eventually snippets of the conversation made sense to me as it slowly dawned on I was dead wrong about it being an “enlightening conversation”.
Dead wrong!!
They were talking such utter drivel which I will do you my dear readers a community service by not committing the cardinal sin of verbal diarrhoea. For someone who struggled to keep up with group conversations for their entire life, for someone who someone would only be a conversational recipient when it was really warranted, for someone who finally had managed to acquire some good hearing with the use of a Cochlear Implant to be able to follow group conversations in a limited way..
It was utterly disappointing! Such a waste! Which lead me to blurt out “Why do hearing people talk such utter crap?!”
Opps! I had just committed the cardinal sin of verbal diarrhoea. Damn!
Banter I understand, talking shop I understand, talking sports I understand, talking books I understand, talking arts/TV/movies I understand, talking about shelving I understand, talking about alcomohol I understand, talking about SQL tables & queries I understand but talking such utter drivel which bears no resemblance to reality whatsoeva is utterly disappointing!
To me at least!!! I just simply do not understand it period!
I invite you to read the following blog posts, be warned though they’re not for the faint hearted, the first one titled “David” describes some of my experiences while I was growing up and it is an excellent post describing what a lot of deafies experience when they’re at school. Another blog post titled “Carrie”, if you tend to cry at the drop of a hat I suggest you have a box of tissues handy while reading this post. The Carrie post definitely hit a raw nerve with me and I sometimes read it to remind myself why I try not to take communication for granted.
One of the reasons why I chose to share the David & Carrie posts is to provide you dear readers a different perspective on why communication is extremely important and why you should try not to take it for granted. I’ve been guilty of taking it for granted myself in the past which I do regret on reflection later and these days I try to make a conscious effort to do better.
So far I’ve made no mention of people who have motor mouths which I’m going to leave to everyone else to talk about so please share your stories of motor mouths and tell us how you dealt with them.
Right now that I’ve got that off my chest and according to Migs I’ve got plenty of porn to watch today just to slow the server down for you lot. 
July 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm | Quote selected text
1. Share the ****
2. We talk drivel because it’s fun. It does not need a point. There is no point in life so try not take things too seriously and just enjoy the ride
July 7th, 2008 at 9:30 pm | Quote selected text
This is communication
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpQHdwIIswQ&NR=1
I know a girl who is a motor mouth, well I haven’t seen her in a long time, but Si-am bumps into her occassionally and says she is still a motor mouth. It was mildy amusing at first. Then I started tuning out most of her chatter. Despite saying so many words, she barely said anything memorable.
July 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pm | Quote selected text
^^ I meant Slaks wrote a funny column (if that wasn’t clear)
July 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pm | Quote selected text
Bender is doing this right now:
Oh and before Meow says it - all conversations with Meow are . . . nah, obvious cheap shots aren’t my thang hehe
July 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pm | Quote selected text
Termi
Regarding your text tonight
http://blogs.news.com.au/jackmarxlive/index.php/news/comments/something_about_dexter/
If Jack Marx and Moet are on board you know it is a good show
To root for Dexter Morgan makes perfect sense to anyone who can understand that the things employed to corral human behaviour – the law and it’s instruments of enforcement – are not natural phenomena, like rock formations or love, but man-made institutions, as shaky as the frightened hands that built them. They were drawn up by people with agendas not always noble (the war on drugs is basically the product of America’s distrust of Chinamen), and now we’re stuck with them. The law is there not to fulfill mankind’s dreams, but to stop society from descending into anarchy, just as marriage is there to prevent us from descending into orgy. Dexter is a reminder that some animals do things quite differently.
Only the shallow could have any actual love for the rules that prevent them from getting rich tomorrow and dealing with enemies swiftly. Deep down, we all want to jump the queue, cut through the crap, tell that leering ***** to shove her “procedure” and give us what we need to survive, and that we don’t has less to do with respect for others than the fear of law – whether God’s or society’s – with which we’re indoctrinated from the cradle. Sometimes, society’s dim view of violence seems to benefit none but the more serpentine b@stards, creepy emotional sadism only marginally less effective than a slap in the face, and certainly just as vicious. It’s the reason many of us, I’m sure, have a certain admiration for career criminals, those with the balls to back their instincts rather than waiting their turn in the big game of pointless snakes, arbitrary ladders and smug weaklings who refuse to let go of the dice.
July 7th, 2008 at 10:20 pm | Quote selected text
Migs
This if for you, snookums
http://blogs.news.com.au/jackmarxlive/index.php/news/comments/binge/
I bet you’ll get a kick out of this:
I now officially pronounce “binge drinking” a phrase exclusively from the dickhead’s lexicon. Whenever you hear it being spoken, nearby will be the mouth of an idiot, and a brain ill-equipped to power even such a feeble machine. Note the date, for July 7 is the day when we discovered a new genus of moron (bingus drinkus arsewipus perhaps), most commonly found in the upper echelons of parliament and the lower swamps of journalism. If you see these pests, swat them, hard. You will not hurt the creatures, because they are too stupid to know pain for what it is, or simple things for what they are.
July 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pm | Quote selected text
“It was utterly disappointing! Such a waste! Which lead me to blurt out “Why do hearing people talk such utter crap?!”
Generalisation:
Hearing people are used to noise. They find silence uncomfortable. So when they don’t wish to talk about serious topics or otherwise cannot think of anything meaningful to say they fill the void with mindless chatter.
July 7th, 2008 at 10:30 pm | Quote selected text
Much like a blog not getting many posts because no-one is around . . .
The supreme ruler of the Empire of Darth Bender must go to bed now so he can earn a few more bendovers tomorrow. G’night folks
July 8th, 2008 at 12:21 am | Quote selected text
Post of the day…
GMH
July 8th, 2008 at 12:43 am | Quote selected text
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July 8th, 2008 at 12:55 am | Quote selected text
Perhaps Dexter plays to that preening voice inside that insists we’re all special, that nobody understands us, that we’re all hiding some dark secret that would fry the minds of our friends if they knew it.
I’m speechless at this sentence Jack wrote
July 8th, 2008 at 5:29 am | Quote selected text
i think most people talk drivel, that’s why i spend so much time alone…
July 8th, 2008 at 7:37 am | Quote selected text
As someone who has spent far too much time talking and not enough listening I find myself suitably chastened.
What resonates with this post is how we (hearies) take our ability to talk **** for granted and don’t appreciate the preciousness and gift that our words and ability to communicate can be.
Great Post Slaky.
What he said.
I think people also fill the void to avoid the emotional and physical subtext to a conversation.
July 8th, 2008 at 8:11 am | Quote selected text
Wasn’t that Ford Prefect’s second theory as to why humans talk so much?
As to topic; I kinda get what Slaks is getting at with taking things for granted. Substitute locomotion for communication and the ostracism, alienation and self doubt are there. Not nearly in the same quantities, but they are there.
July 8th, 2008 at 8:47 am | Quote selected text
Tut tut! Why? I repeat what I said last week:
“One man’s **** is another man’s profundity.”
Speaking as a grade-A motor mouth, who can talk under wet cement with a mouthful of marbles, it has served me well.
I can have a conversation with anyone, anywhere, anytime, about anything. Why is this good? Because I CAN draw uncomfortable people out of their shell and help them to mingle. I am the person you want at parties. And I’m never uncomfortable in a room full of strangers.
I might talk **** occasionally, but I could be much worse. Much, MUCH worse. I am a natural blonde, after all.
And in the end, we only think someone else is talking drivel because secretly, we wish we were talking about something else. Here’s an idea - change the subject.
Bender!!
Agreed, agreed, so agreed. Stay tuned for Wednesday when I present to you “Dexter and Patrick - The Dichotomy.”
July 8th, 2008 at 8:58 am | Quote selected text
No.
Why on earth isn’t speaking drivel sometimes OK? It’s like Arnie movies. You don’t go to be enlightened. Sometimes, stuff is just about entertainment.
PS - Slaks.. what on earth were the bendy one and i talking about??
July 8th, 2008 at 9:03 am | Quote selected text
Ditto.
Except, I do like my quiet time and sometimes, I just want to shut up and be on my own and if I can have a whole weekend like that, I am uber happy.
Which is why i disagree with GMH, however I do note he said he is generalising.
July 8th, 2008 at 9:07 am | Quote selected text
Me too. June was a bumper month for me and I managed to wriggle out of some plans and had an entire weekend to myself. It was bliss. Even motor-mouths need a break.
July 8th, 2008 at 9:16 am | Quote selected text
Love some more of this, good for reading and thinking
July 8th, 2008 at 9:21 am | Quote selected text
Alright. Hold it right there, missy.
You think the following epochal cinematic moments are mere entertainment?
“Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women.” - Conan the Barbarian
“I’m not into politics, I’m into survival.” – The Running Man
“I’ll be back.” - Terminator
“If it bleeds, we can kill it.” – Predator
“Have you ever killed anyone?”
“Yeah, but they were all bad.” – True Lies
“If I am not me, who da hell am I?” – Total Recall
“Hasta la vista, baby!” – Terminator 2
Recant your dangerous heresy at once, O’Hara.
July 8th, 2008 at 9:22 am | Quote selected text
Indeed!
I like to take a book, a bottle of water and a beach mat to the park near the water and I’m happy for hours!
July 8th, 2008 at 9:23 am | Quote selected text
(PS - the True Lies one.. that’s still one of my all time favourite movie lines.. Arnie has the best one liners.. )
YOu know. I was just thinking, you probably didnt even need to look up the Arnie quotes. Like Shakespearian quotes, they are just ingrained in your mind..
Which makes me think, could Arnie be Shakespeare reincarnated…??
Go on…
July 8th, 2008 at 9:25 am | Quote selected text
… you’se talky types are doing a lot of talking in order to justify/rationalise your talking-ness… hehehehehe!
{edit: I talk drivel too, I just thought the above observation was amusing :)}
July 8th, 2008 at 9:27 am | Quote selected text
no
July 8th, 2008 at 9:29 am | Quote selected text
Now I am laughing at you because I know how many posts you have on your facebook wall!
July 8th, 2008 at 9:34 am | Quote selected text
stalker!!!!!!! ;)
it’s not my fault… people mostly talk to me first, it would be rude not to respond {even if I don’t want to}
… also, it means I don’t have to socialise in real life - I like that!
PS - I did
in the mirror to myself… it looked funny
July 8th, 2008 at 9:37 am | Quote selected text
yep. actually, i just had a quick look and you have 1.7 times more wall posts than i do. and i have approx 1800. thazzalotta wall posts!!
re
.. did you hunch your shouders up and stuff? coz that as, to me, part of the reason for gold instead of silver.
oh! we are drivelling!
July 8th, 2008 at 9:41 am | Quote selected text
I did not! I shall have to try again :)
The empty vessel makes the most noise… I’m stopping now before you tarnish my reputation
July 8th, 2008 at 9:44 am | Quote selected text
I hate that. Just because someone talks a lot doesn’t necessarily mean they talk drivel all the time. I find people who talk less say that to justify that they’re more intelligent than talkers.
How much one talks is not a measure of character or depth of profundity. What is said, is what counts.
July 8th, 2008 at 9:46 am | Quote selected text
you mean like a ghost ship?
July 8th, 2008 at 9:49 am | Quote selected text
I am going to give this the response it deserves: I’m ignoring it…well, now I am
I agree - but only that they don’t talk drivel *all* the time. Most of us speak drivel, at one point or another, regardless of how much we do or don’t talk.
Then again, what does one define as drivel?
July 8th, 2008 at 9:53 am | Quote selected text
:->:
July 8th, 2008 at 9:53 am | Quote selected text
Very few people talk drivel 24/7…
Like I said above - people accuse others of drivel when they wish they were talking about something else.
Classic example? When AJ calls sci-fi “namby-pamby”. I might see it as interesting and not drivel-like when it is discussed. AJ sees it as drivel because she doesn’t like it.
Personal preference, yet again…
July 8th, 2008 at 9:55 am | Quote selected text
Hamlet, Act I, scene v
“There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
Arnie style:
“You know nothing, Horatio”
Hamlet, Act III, scene i
“Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them.”
Arnie style:
“We gotta fight to live”
July 8th, 2008 at 9:59 am | Quote selected text
Julius Caesar, Act II, scene ii
“Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once.”
Arnie style:
“I kill you all before I die”
July 8th, 2008 at 10:01 am | Quote selected text
I don’t talk crap. Everything I say is gold, pure gold I tells ya.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:01 am | Quote selected text
With most people, especially strangers, we are expected to interact. We are expected to show interest in who they are. We do this via conversation, and classically via small talk - hence the name, conversation about small unimportant things.
Silence is intimate. It indicates comfort, a relaxed relationship and a shared recognition of your respecting personal boundaries. This is why people gush about how they can just “sit there and say nothing” with their partner and feel comfy.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:02 am | Quote selected text
Geez there’s a lot of people here justifying in a lot of words over multiple postings why they feel the need to talk a lot.
Kinda proves Slaky’s point don’t ya think?
July 8th, 2008 at 10:06 am | Quote selected text
sometimes it can be :)… those that speak least generally get more from my ears than those that speak often and much. there is a tendency to have more considered thought and thus make a more meaningful statement {to me}. every thought that one has, expressed aloud without much filtering/editing, does not necessarily equal the espousing of brilliance.
don’t get me wrong… a time and place for drivel! it’s fun and silly and all the rest… but because someone is *able* to talk a great deal, does not mean they are saying anything of great significance either {or of interest, or well informed, or anything else}
please note that I fall into the latter category {as o’hara has already pointed out, I talk a lot… sometimes… when i feel like it ;). however, sometimes I don’t}. that is to say, I am using broad brush strokes and applying them to myself as well as speaking in generalist terms
further, those that drivel tend to talk more than they seem to actually listen - ecocentric, yes… but not commendable and yeah, for me, a measure of character
PS - namby pamby and drivel are not the same thing :)!
*gasp*
Act II, scene ii
“More matter with less art”
July 8th, 2008 at 10:07 am | Quote selected text
Nah. I found the first linked post about David very interesting. What has been proven is that outsiders (deaf people, non-native English speakers, cultural misfits) will not feel part of the group and participate, so they end up observing.
Observers are always in the best position to recognise the banality of other people’s interactions and inwardly roll their eyes.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:08 am | Quote selected text
Hamlet, Act 4, scene i:
Gertrude: “A rat, a rat!”
Arnie style: “A rat, a rat!”
[and yes I used that quote in my HSC English exam]
July 8th, 2008 at 10:10 am | Quote selected text
July 8th, 2008 at 10:11 am | Quote selected text
context?
July 8th, 2008 at 10:12 am | Quote selected text
It hurts! It burnses!! Please make it stop!!!
So, so true. I’m not sure about the gushing part, but absolutely a quality I would rate VERY highly in a relationship.
I didn’t actually read the posts as a justification, just an alternative perspective. Again comes back to the ‘drivel factor’, I suppose.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:14 am | Quote selected text
July 8th, 2008 at 10:18 am | Quote selected text
In the context of recently having returned from overseas without studying and already having used “I am but mad north-north west … ” and the slings and arrows soliloquy, that is all I had left.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:18 am | Quote selected text
Hamlet: How now, a rat! Dead for a ducat, dead!
Arnie: Hasta la vista, baby.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:22 am | Quote selected text
My 2nd Grade English teacher: “How now brown cow”
July 8th, 2008 at 10:30 am | Quote selected text
It depends. I agree completely that there are people I know who don’t speak often, and when they do I listen closely. One of my ex-flatmates is very much like that - it takes months to get a decent conversation out of him, but then look out!
Having said that, I also know people who speak just as rarely, but when they do the pearls of wisdom are nowhere to be seen/heard/proferred. This is sometimes due to the context of conversation, but can also be due to personality, scope of interest, breadth of understanding etc. etc.
Did it work?
I made myself a promise before I went into my exam that I would use this quintessence of dust, regardless of whether it answered the question or not - it’s my favourite line, and I was determined! I did use it, but cannot remember for the life of me in what context
July 8th, 2008 at 10:31 am | Quote selected text
Why did “our Nicole and Keith” call their new baby Sunday Roast ?
July 8th, 2008 at 10:35 am | Quote selected text
OMG. I said exactly the same thing an hour ago.
****, I am turning into you.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:35 am | Quote selected text
Which of course made me think of the Roast Lamb Ad
My mum went to school with a girl named Tuesday…
July 8th, 2008 at 10:37 am | Quote selected text
I am sure it got a rise out of the marker and look at the lofty heights I have reached since those days.
I just realised I can remember F Scott Fitzgerald quotes and Hamlet quotes and quadratic equations and physics formulae and balancing chemical equations and the J-curve and supply and demand graphs and unreal numbers but I cannot remember a single line of poetry that I used in the HSC.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:37 am | Quote selected text
What is it with celebrities and their stupid child names?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBit83NpvN0
July 8th, 2008 at 10:38 am | Quote selected text
I’m with you - I object to parents deliberately painting targets on their children’s back.
Man, do the texts ever change in the HSC?
Wonder if my kids will study the same stuff as I did…
July 8th, 2008 at 10:39 am | Quote selected text
They will study the collected works of Samantha Brett.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:40 am | Quote selected text
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
*runs away*
July 8th, 2008 at 10:44 am | Quote selected text
… and then ask for anonymity and privacy for their kids … and expect them not to turn into teen crack-whores.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:56 am | Quote selected text
There will be a lot of paparazzi lurking for that first photo…
July 8th, 2008 at 11:15 am | Quote selected text
I find some people do more than others. I know someone who can’t stand silence and when she is put in a place with some people who actually don’t mind not talking to each other or her she will start throwing some sentences, often non-sequiturs, in the air as if “hoping they will catch alight with conversation” and listen to them fall dead as no one responds. It can be rather funny. Then she will turn on the talk-back radio and start commentating while listening.
Damned expectations.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:20 am | Quote selected text
Oh! I would love to converse with her.. and throw back my own random lines in return! lol.. that would be fun… of course, it would miss her point entirely but at least i would be amused.. it would be like being at the mad hatter’s tea party!!
July 8th, 2008 at 11:20 am | Quote selected text
LET’S HAVE A MAD HATTER’S TEA PARTY!!!!!
July 8th, 2008 at 11:33 am | Quote selected text
No? Did they really? … hmm, close enough.
Well, they will no doubt speak in txtese, so her writings will be considered formal literature.
Sure. When? Where? I need a mad hat!
July 8th, 2008 at 11:39 am | Quote selected text
Some hearing people find silence uncomfortable. Especially the ones who need to feel “busy” all the time. Like those young people (
) who have their iPods on whilst eating whilst facebooking 3 friends on the pooter whilst texting 4 other friends from their phone with some TV show on in the background.
I grew up an only child, on an acreage. I’m used to silence. Even awkward ones.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:42 am | Quote selected text
Second/third that motion
Oh, I definitely can! Donne and Keats are still two of my favourite poets
Struggle to remember Yeats, though…
*shudder*
July 8th, 2008 at 11:44 am | Quote selected text
PS. tomorrow I will be in the city and free from around 4pm. Anyone feel like beering from 4ish?
July 8th, 2008 at 12:14 pm | Quote selected text
You know how I feel about dress-ups - but a hat party, even I’d play that game.
Oooh, even know which hat I’d wear! lol
July 8th, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Quote selected text
Stand by to hear that women across the country are getting their stilettos in a tizzy at a new phrase that’s sweeping the world… or something. Is one *** to blame? We welcome your comments.
There’s something about trolling on your OWN blog.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Quote selected text
I’m wearing a top hat, and tux!
you know, if i can source it in time.. so.. who’s hosting the party? i would love to but due to crazy flatmate, thats never going to happen. or we could just have it in the park.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Quote selected text
Like that idea. Everyone bring a plate/nibbly and a crazy hat..
July 8th, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Quote selected text
High tea foods, please!!
Scones and biscuits and different teas and…stuff..
July 8th, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Quote selected text
Ooh, my grandmother gave me her scone recipe… to die for, I tell you…
Pikelets!!
July 8th, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Quote selected text
I can’t remember the last time I had pikelets…and, since I forgot the fairy bread for SSS and Si-am (which I didn’t realise until a week after the absinthe party, and felt SOOOOOOOO guilty about), I will make sure I bring that too
Should wait till spring, then…if we have it in October, I will organise it as a birfday event!
July 8th, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Quote selected text
I’m not free in October between the 10th and 17th - will be in sunny Cairns with my brother.
Home Sat 18th in the morning, so I can do something that weekend.
Free the rest of the month though.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Quote selected text
sounds good! 20th-ish?
July 8th, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Quote selected text
Does that mean my birthday’s on a Monday this year? Ew!
July 8th, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Quote selected text
Maybe.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Quote selected text
Would have been happy to have it at our place, but that is at Hornsby, which would mean Migs has to cross the Harbour Bridge.
Am happy with the park idea in spring. If we say the weekend of 25-26 Oct then it could be a sort of Halloween-y party. I can only do the Sunday of that weekend though.
no worries. we survived
July 8th, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Quote selected text
hi everyone!
well i am not making friends with the other kids yet, they had birthday morning tea and i did not participate…there are sooooo many people here, i am seriously traumatised….people everywhere…it’s too much…
if you guys are at trivia tomorrow as usual i will drop in!
Miss OHara,
now i must object! Arnie movies are NOT drivel!!! They are art!!
July 8th, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Quote selected text
Erm… if your birthday is on the 13th or the 20th… then yes.
July 8th, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Quote selected text
I was going to ask where Hornsby is. Don’t consired me in your plans. I would not attend a mad hatter’s tea party.
Can’t figure out why you haven’t made any friends then.
Have they had your welcome morning tea yet ? Bit more difficult not to attend them. If you haven’t I will email some friends to organise it.
July 8th, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Quote selected text
um i didn’t attend my own birthday morning tea at my previous job, i had an urgent business call!! they ate cake without me just fine!
sure you have THAT much POWER Migs?
you better not or i will spank you for real!
July 8th, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Quote selected text
Look on your CityRail map on the North Shore Line. See the City, go north - past North Sydney, past St Leonards, past Chatswood, past Gordon, oooh …. there you will soon get to Hornsby.
I had a friend who once lived in Hornsby. She would have been a good Mad Hatter because she was sort of mad and her hats were even madder.
July 8th, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Quote selected text
ps Migs, i am not actually trying to make new friends, i have enough friends now, there are no ‘vacancies’…….unless you guys drop me!
July 8th, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Quote selected text
agreement… hence me acknowledging the generalist way in which I was phrasing it :)